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๐ŸšจCannabis Grow Problemsby DIYNutes_MikeExperienced16d ago

Week 5 yellowing, N deficiency or natural fade?

Running a soil grow under 600w HPS, week 5 of flower. Lowers are going yellow and dropping, but i'm also seeing some fade starting on the mid-canopy fan leaves. pH is holding at 6.4, runoff EC is reasonable, and I haven't changed my feed schedule. Base mix is calcium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate, and magnesium sulfate, boosted slightly for flower.

My read is that some lower leaf drop at week 5 is pretty normal. The plant is pulling mobile nutrients from the oldest leaves to support bud development, so a bit of senescence makes sense. But i'm second-guessing myself because the yellowing seems to be moving faster than I expected, and a couple of the mid leaves look a little pale rather than that clean yellow-to-drop fade you see in a healthy finish.

What's the general rule of thumb you guys use to tell the difference? I know N deficiency usually shows as uniform pale yellowing starting at the bottom, while natural fade tends to be more patchy and progresses slower. But at week 5 those two things can look really similar. Curious if anyone bumps N slightly mid-flower when this shows up, or if that's the wrong call and you just let it ride.

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Experienced16d ago

The lower drop at week 5 is pretty normal yeah, but the mid-canopy pale leaves are the part worth watching. That's the tell for me. Healthy senescence works its way up gradually and the leaves that go yellow still look "alive" if that makes sense, they yellow clean. Pale and washed out mid-canopy usually means something is actually short, not that the plant is finishing gracefully.

That said, before I touched nitrogen I'd be looking hard at the calcium situation. Cal-nitrate is your N and Ca source in that mix, and if uptake is off even slightly, Ca tends to show first as that general pale washed look people misread as N deficiency. Your pH at 6.4 is fine, but EC "seems reasonable" is doing a lot of work in your post. What's the actual number?

From my own experience, mid-flower pale that moves fast is almost never just natural fade. I've chased phenos that want more feed mid-flower than I expected, especially resinous ones. I'd rather bump the feed a touch and see if the new growth holds its color over the next 5-7 days than just let it ride and end up with a plant that coasted into the finish on fumes. You can still taper off in the last couple weeks. Missing the window on the other side is harder to recover.

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Expert Grower16d ago

week 5 mid-canopy pale moving fast, i'd want to know the actual EC number too before touching anything. one thing i'd add is that cal-nitrate heavy mixes can create a bit of a mag lockout situation if the sulfate side isnt keeping pace, and pale washing mid-canopy sometimes points there before it points to N. worth ruling out before bumping the whole feed.

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